i think it would.
instantly.
in fact, i hope one day soon that we somehow encounter extraterrestrial life because i think there would be a wholesale rejection of the bible and any/all religious institutions.
The JWs for sure, as well as all other religions would spin it off as New Light or a New Revelation from God’s as his overall purpose.
(1 Corinthians 2:9) . . .But just as it is written: “Eye has not seen and ear has not heard, neither have there been conceived in the heart of man the things that God has prepared for those who love him. . .
how much was the ransom?
gods justice did not require an exact equivalent man-for-man sacrifice between the first adam and jesus, the second adam.
gods gift required more.
Interesting OP. But there is a far deeper problem with the ransom issue. Adam did not introduce sin into the world. Eve did!
So to solve the issue, they just ignored the fact that it was actually Eve who sinned first, and pinned the introduction of sin on her male accomplice, Adam.
But that Eve introduced sin into the world is without dispute when you read Genesis.
But the patriarchal misogynistic society in which christianity was born, could not stomach the thought of a woman having such a prominent role.
That would actually explain a lot of other things like Paul’s strong convictions that Women were not allowed to teach in the congregation. Paul said that women could be easily deceived but not the men. Where does it say in Genesis that Adam was not deceived? For all we know Eve made an apple pie and gave him a piece and he was totally deceived. And if Paul can make up the story of Adam not being deceived, then I can make up the story of an apple being the forbidden fruit.
(1 Timothy 2:14) . . .Also, Adam was not deceived, but the woman was thoroughly deceived and came to be in transgression. . .
how much was the ransom?
gods justice did not require an exact equivalent man-for-man sacrifice between the first adam and jesus, the second adam.
gods gift required more.
cofty
He decided: the blood of a perfect human life
Pictures can speak a thousand words Cofty.
I saw the first picture,
Then the second one,
Case closed.
when i began formal study of religion and biblical analysis it was like peeling off layer after layer of dark matter, sticky and putrid that had stuck over my eyes and ears and mouth.
i learned that under the watchtower one only builds a widening gap between yourself and the world of biblical academia and scholars.
i used to think i knew a lot because i learned to quote a few scholars or lexicons as a witness.
The Protestant Christian doctrine that the Bible is the supreme authority in all matters of doctrine and practice (faith).
It should be noted that neither Judaism nor Catholicism/Orthodox Christianity can adopt this belief since their religious systems were alive and well before the Biblical texts were written
Caleb, are you saying Catholicism existed before the B.C. Era?
when i began formal study of religion and biblical analysis it was like peeling off layer after layer of dark matter, sticky and putrid that had stuck over my eyes and ears and mouth.
i learned that under the watchtower one only builds a widening gap between yourself and the world of biblical academia and scholars.
i used to think i knew a lot because i learned to quote a few scholars or lexicons as a witness.
Bonsai
Very informative thread! Although I've lost all faith, I can't call myself an atheist because it's threads like this that prove to me that I've learned just enough to know that I don't really know anything at all. It makes me so sad that in this small lifespan that I have, I won't have the time to figure everything out.
Hey Bonsai, who gave you permission to take those words out of my head, that is exactly how I feel. I couldn't have said it any better.
when i began formal study of religion and biblical analysis it was like peeling off layer after layer of dark matter, sticky and putrid that had stuck over my eyes and ears and mouth.
i learned that under the watchtower one only builds a widening gap between yourself and the world of biblical academia and scholars.
i used to think i knew a lot because i learned to quote a few scholars or lexicons as a witness.
Caleb
Since Protestanism rejects Apostolic Tradition, the reading of Scripture occurs without this preconception.
I'm beginning to understand why there are over 40,000 Christians denominations.
http://www.pressreader.com/usa/honolulu-star-advertiser/20150725/281848642300889/textview.
it sounds to me like he was a jw before he became a physician.
"kalauawa, who became a jw 31 years ago, said he had to overcome a major conflict between his religious and professional beliefs, because jws are opposed to blood transfusions.
During his residency [medical training] he resolved the dilemma by having other doctors order transfusions.
Once the transfusion was ordered by another doctor, then in clear conscience he could go ahead and insert the needle and start pumping that blood.
"Another pint please"
i keep reading of some guy who is so upset at someone that he goes into a theater and shoots 20 people..
or a kid that is so mad that the other kids made fun of him that he goes to school and shoots a bunch of kids..
or some guy that was fired from his job and he goes back and shoots of bunch of his workers.
Brokeback Watchtower
I will say this about the Governing Body's desire to keep enforcing Disfellowshipping tactics as a form information control is playing with fire
All it takes is one-huh!
http://www.christianpost.com/news/jimmy-carter-says-jesus-would-not-support-abortion-revealing-only-conflict-between-his-politics-and-christian-faith-141881/.
carter said that as a young man he used to be a jehovah's witness before he was a baptist christian.. .
"it's hard to grow up with such a foundational system and just let it go.
The writers from Christian Post should learn how to read a NY Times article.
The writer was probably a former Watchtower magazine writer.
a friend at the convention told me that kenneth williams, a co in the houston texas area was recently removed and taken off the road.
does any one have any details?
ToesUp
I don't know anything about it but I do know that there a quite a few that should be removed.
I think they should all be removed.
